On many occasions I thought I had interesting and insightful questions which would help me get the job (ps this works the other way round too).
However I should have been asking the 12 questions from the Joel test as they are the ones that really matter to developers.
In case you are not sure what they are let me reproduce them here:
The Joel Test
As you can see they are pretty good ... go to Joel test and read the definitions or just ask how much your company scores.- Do you use source control?
- Can you make a build in one step?
- Do you make daily builds?
- Do you have a bug database?
- Do you fix bugs before writing new code?
- Do you have an up-to-date schedule?
- Do you have a spec?
- Do programmers have quiet working conditions?
- Do you use the best tools money can buy?
- Do you have testers?
- Do new candidates write code during their interview?
- Do you do hallway usability testing?
The company I am currently working for only scores 3/12 on the Joel test and that is because I am being generous.
There is a new version of the Joel test because it is 10 years old and things move on in that time.
This new version can be found here (http://geekswithblogs.net/btudor/archive/2009/06/16/132842.aspx).
The Joel Test
On this scale my new job scores 0/12.- Do you have a change management system?
There needs to be a configuration management plan, control of assets beyond “source code”, branching and merging strategy (even if it’s not to branch), release stabilization and deployment plan, security permissions and roles, quality gates for checking and/or merge, etc. Otherwise, “use source control” is just referring to a glorified backup system. - Can everyone make a build in one step? Individual developers need access to the automated build system. The official nightly build can “build everything”, but developers need to be able to build individual parts, pull together the required assets, and run from a representative staging area – maybe a virtual machine (or two), a network share, or just a folder on disk.
- Do your daily build include automated tests? It’s not enough to just build – we need an indication of build quality. “Break the build” should mean more than “does not compile”, it should also mean “does not pass the tests”.
- Is work item tracking integrated with source control? What artifacts were changed with a given bug fix? What bug or development task is associated with the most recent change-set? Which bugs are associated with a given merge? Check-outs (or commits, depending on the source control system in use), must be associated with bug reports or development tasks. Each check-in should reflect changes for one task (unless they are coupled tasks). You should also be able to query, based on a bug report, which artifacts were changed (or ideally, currently in the process of being changed). In other words, change management must be integrated with bug tracking and project task tracking.
- Do you fix bugs and write new code?A properly run project will have a branching / merging strategy (or tagging/labeling policy) that allows simultaneous bug fixes with new development. A quality organization will be able to correct bugs in previous releases, and ensure those corrections are in the current release. Without copying or duplicating the code base.
- Do you track progress and manage change?
Project tracking must include processes that allow for managing (planning / executing / tracking) change as well as tracking progress and periodic re-planning of the remaining work. - Do you have a requirements management system? The “spec” will change; that change needs to be managed. Too often I see organizations with an excellent process for development of the “spec” and a horrible process for managing change in the spec. Note: In 2010, if you don’t have a “spec”, you automatically get a ZERO on the new Joel Test and there is no point in continuing on.
- Do programmers have quiet working conditions and teaming rooms? The teaming rooms are more than a room with a white-board. There is a conference phone, computers (more than one), projector, and lots of white boards. Code reviews, code walk-through, mentoring, design, dispute resolution, meeting with customers – can all take place here.
- Do you use the best tools money can buy or the latest open source tools?
No change needed. This one is timeless but with a minor tweek. - Are your testers involved in requirements management? The test team needs to be involved in the requirements management system as well as the product validation process. Tests are executed against the requirements. The testers should have authority to approve/reject a deployment as well as approve or reject a requirement. Otherwise, they’re just testers.
- Do new candidates review code during their interview?
“Writing code” is one thing – understanding code is another. Candidates should be able to answer questions like “is this code thread-safe?”, “is the code well-commented?”, or “Is the implementation appropriate” – and why. Printing fizz-buzz is one thing; being able to appropriately critique a page of code is another. As a bonus, you could always ask them to re-write it and get the best of both.
Or you could throw a random biut of open source at them and ask them to explain it. - Do you do hallway usability testing? No change there.
Oh Crap!
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